Arrowhead Ranch Phase I

The HOA has nothing to do with the speed humnp. By their own words when we first requested assistance with getting one, ''We do not own the roads, the City of Glendale owns the roads''. We were told to contact the City of Glendale and follow their procedures for requesting a speed hump. We did this completely and it was approved by the City of Glendale because it was proven to be necessary.

If you live on this street, you are probably not the one complaining because you most likely signed the petition to request a traffic study by the City of Glendale. The traffic study determined that traffic was not complying with the law and creates a threat to the children of the neighborhood.

If you are complaining, it is probably because you are one of the drivers that has been speeding up and down this street and possibly even one of the drivers that came up on my sidewalk and forced me to dive into my yard to avoid being hit in front of my own home - and you OBVIOUSLY do not live on this street. It is incomprehensive how someone would not want to protect our children. The person that filed the complaint from 71st drive should take another route if he or she has a problem with us protecting our children. My question to this individual would be, do you file a complaint with every agency and neighborhood association that puts speed humps in place? If your vet can't get over the speed hump, you have a problem because it is not a big speed hump, it is a 20 mph speed hump! TAKE A MORE PALLETABLE ROUTE FOR YOU BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR CHILDREN!

By Concerned Parents on 67th Drive

Speed Humps

Don't confuse being a concerned parent with being a MORON!

Speed humps don't punish speeders - they only punish people who drive low slung cars.

I am not a speeder, and I've never been pulled over for speeding in my life. I don't live on 67th Dr., but I don't want to allow this precedent to be set. If we allow this tragic mistake to stay, it will only encourage other stupid people to follow suit and try to repeat this behavior on other streets in our neighborhood. Someday it will affect me if I don't put a stop to it now.

Expect more noise, pollution, and gasoline waste by throwing one more impediment in the way of our neighborhood drivers. Don't be naive enough to expect safer streets.

Speedhumps are not the solution

Many of us, as you are, are parents concerned about the safety of our children. However, you have taken a big leap from wanting to do something to make our streets safer to automatically believing speed humps are the solution. I have not been able to find any empirical data showing that speed humps reduce traffic speed. I had learned that traffic studies on Potter, a street west of 59th with several speed humps, showed the average speed to be the same pre and post speed humps.

All physical traffic calming methods create a set of their own problems: increased noise, damage by motorists attempting to swerve around them, large accelerations and speed between them, added cost to a stressed city budget, etc., not to mention the deterioration of the esthetics of the neighborhood created by the ''airport runway markings'' the city must apply to them. Without knowledge based on fact, I have always preferred periodic active radar enforcement, which I know isn't cheap, but it directly targets the offenders and does not tread on the rights of the non-offenders. Short of a major culture shift for motorists, there really is no perfect solution.

I don't buy into the City's approach of citizen appeasement (i.e., speedhump program) for the purpose of political expediency. I don't believe in the theory that doing anything is better than doing nothing. We need to poke on city staff and officials for a better approach. I abhor speeding in our neighborhood, but I don't believe speedhumps are the solution.

get over it

Why start the name calling. First of all maybe you do not speed and maybe you just have not been caught. All of us neighbors who live on 67th drive have tried to talk with the people that speed and some have even called the police to request intervention, that did not work either. I have seen two vets go over the hump just fine. We requested assistance through the hoa first and were told it is up to the city of Glendale, they are responsible for the streets. The test they did showed that the avg speed was 40 plus. Sorry I have kids and do not want to see them hurt. So call the city and follow the same steps we were forced to use. Like you said you do not live on this street and do not see the way these jerks that also do not live on this street drive. Do you call all shopping centers, malls, movie theaters etc. and complain about their speed humps? I do not think so. So we will fight to keep the speed hump. When people slow down and stop using our street as a straight way race path, we will then ease up. Have you complained about the speed humps on Utopia just west of 75 ave. What about the speed dips south of Utopia. So let the noise come at least our kids will be safer.

By Bob