Oh, man! Jerry Brown?

http://wtp.org/

If what you say is true, then we must not vote for the republican Ron Paul since his party sold us out?

yeah if that was the true case then why did the GOP put mccain up against obama in 08, C'mon. So it means that much why would you go with romney over paul, because if the GOP had went with paul they would have grabbed some dems and all the independents and libertarians . but they choose romney and now you have split the gop and it's gop suicide, they're doing it to themselves. Why not try talking to some of the GOP planners and see why they want to split the GOP. Because true to heart I'm a conservative but the GOP is far from conservative, more debt, more wars, more surveillance and they sure aren't conserving our liberties. ~~

"After the New Hampshire primary, Grover Norquist made a bold prediction. “If Ron Paul speaks at the GOP convention (as he was not invited to do in 2008), the party will be united and Mitt Romney
will win in November 2012,” the anti-tax crusader wrote in the Guardian. “If Ron Paul speaks only at his own rally in Tampa, Florida (as happened at the 2008 GOP convention in Minnesota) the party will not be at full strength.”

guess what the GOP has not invited paul to the convention and like 08 he is having a convention near the convention, how disrespectful and you want the paulbots to save your ass!!!! but ron can't speak at the convention.. you're crazy if you think, you haven't even apoligized for your and the GOP's treatment of us paulbots. Sit here calling me names and expect me to help you, then you try the two party dictatorship's favorite "fear" but it don;t work on us. it's going to be bad and get worse with either of them criminals

here an article from the daily caller

After the New Hampshire primary, Grover Norquist made a bold prediction. “If Ron Paul speaks at the GOP convention (as he was not invited to do in 2008), the party will be united and Romney will win in November 2012,” the anti-tax crusader wrote in the Guardian. “If Ron Paul speaks only at his own rally in Tampa, Florida (as happened at the 2008 GOP convention in Minnesota) the party will not be at full strength.”

Republican convention planners decided to split the difference. Paul’s son, Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul, will have a prominent convention speaking slot. Delegates are also likely to see a video paying tribute to Paul, the 12-term libertarian-leaning congressman from Texas who received more than 2 million votes for president in the 2012 GOP primaries.

Ron Paul is splitting the difference too. He will be holding a rally on Sunday at the University of South Florida’s 11,000-seat Sun Dome, separate from the Republican National Convention. But he and his supporters will also be working inside the convention hall to maximize their influence on the GOP.

Paul supporters have already left their mark on the party. On Monday, Mitt Romney came out in favor of auditing the Federal Reserve, a longtime Paul priority. An audit the Fed plank is also slated to make it into the party platform. CNN has reported that the Paul campaign and the Republican National Committee have been hammering away at a deal on disputed delegates from Louisiana, Massachusetts, and Maine.

Republican leaders have an incentive to resolve the impasse: they want to keep the convention running smoothly without any disruption from the Paul delegates. There is also much at stake for the Paul forces. If young Paulites make the GOP gathering their 1968 Democratic National Convention, they will endanger all the progress they have made within the party.

But if Paul backers come away from Tampa empty-handed, it will bring doubts many of them still have about working within the GOP into the open and potentially divide the movement.

“The strategy that the Paul political machine is moving forward is not of the taste of a lot of the grassroots and it never has been,” Reason magazine senior editor Brian Doherty, author of “Ron Paul’s rEVOLution: The Man and the Movement He Inspired,” told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

That strategy is to anoint Rand Paul as the successor to his father, work for candidates who share their brand of libertarian conservatism in Republican primaries, and use the GOP as a vehicle to achieve their policy goals.

Many of the speakers scheduled to appear at Paul’s pre-convention rally fit very much in line with this approach. Senator Paul and Michigan GOP Rep. Justin Amash are examples of Paul-inspired Republicans winning elections. A.J. Spiker went from being vice-chair of Paul’s 2012 Iowa campaign to state Republican chairman.

Ashley Duncan is a 21-year-old Paul supporter who was elected to the Republican National Committee from Maine. Barry Goldwater, Jr. is a former Republican congressman and son of the 1964 GOP presidential nominee.

“Ron Paul’s rally will enable supporters, the public, and media to further witness the ideas and people that are the future of the Republican Party,” Paul national campaign chairman Jesse Benton said in a statement.

Other scheduled speakers, like hard-line libertarian economists Lew Rockwell and Walter Block, don’t have much use for Republicans not named Ron Paul. Rockwell, a former Paul congressional aide who is now president of the Mises Institute, wrote dismissively of the planned Paul tribute at the convention.

“It’s brilliant politics for the Romulans to substitute a YouTube at their convention for an appearance by the real Ron Paul;” Rockwell began, “that way, they control the Ron who will be seen, in their ongoing attempt to coopt the Ron Paul movement into Neocon Party II.”

Rockwell continued, “Oh, and Ron — the final message will be — don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”

“The thing that makes you a Ron Paul person is an acute sense of crisis,” Doherty explained to The Daily Caller News Foundation. For many who see the current political scene in those terms, voting for Romney and becoming a “good, normalized Republican” are inapt solutions.

Doherty estimated that perhaps a third of Paul’s supporters would ultimately vote for Romney in November, though a larger percentage would back the GOP “whenever Republicans give them someone they could in good conscience vote for.”

Libertarian Party presidential nominee Gary Johnson, a former Republican governor of New Mexico, is openly campaigning for the Paul vote. To a much lesser extent, so is Constitution Party standard-bearer Virgil Goode, a former GOP congressman from Virginia who served with Paul.

Rand Paul has endorsed Romney for president. His father hasn’t followed suit, but he has pointedly declined to throw his weight behind any of the third party alternatives.

To succeed, the Ron Paul movement needs both the activists working within the Republican Party and the “radical pincers” outside it, Doherty argued.

That theory is about to be tested in the hot Florida sun on national television.

show proof romney is against these few issues, because to me these are what fascist support, dude these people are not passing freedom they're passing fascism!!!

is this how the GOP tries to win

Mass. GOP chair’s firm spent on politics, lawsuit contends

http://articles.boston.com/2012-08-19/metro/33260165_1_suit-contributions-suffolk-superior-court

The chairman of the Massachusetts Republican Party faces a lawsuit from a former employee at his software firm, who contends the company squandered money on political interests and illegally compensated employees for their campaign contributions to Republican politicians. no honor in cheating!!!!

  WOW, really!