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Bob Costas

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What control is needed? 
In the U.S. there are approximately 254,212,610 registered cars which account for approximately 32,367 people killed per year. Just about anyone can get a drivers license.  In the U.S. there are best guess (internet info) 9,000,000 guns which have accounted for approximately 35,000 firearms deaths.  This includes suicides, murders, accidental death (discharges) and legal shootings (police, security, etc.). Anyone legally buying a firearm in the U.S. must go through a background check (according to the feds).  Why I don’t condone what happed in New Town and I do condemn the killer, who we control is more important than what we control. Remember it was the federal government that walked guns across the border that ended up killing a border patrol agent and several hundred Mexican citizens.

The answer is clear and obvious.  In the case of this school, had there been one armed person in the office where this idiot went first, he could have been taken down and 20 children would now be alive.  Certainly every scenario is different, but in this one he could have been stopped. 


NOT TRUE!! Your assumption makes many unprovable leaps. In order for any armed person in the office to do any good they would have to of been able to pull their gun before being shot. It also assumes the the office personnel hit their target. No easy feat in a hectic environment that would pressure and rush the best of trained professionals. The odds are high of adding to the death count by missed shots killing children.

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"NOT TRUE!! Your assumption makes many unprovable leaps. In order for any armed person in the office to do any good they would have to of been able to pull their gun before being shot. It also assumes the the office personnel hit their target. No easy feat in a hectic environment that would pressure and rush the best of trained professionals. The odds are high of adding to the death count by missed shots killing children."

 

That idiotic and ill informed position is very easy to take when it is not your child involved!

 

I believe you are just searching about for a negative argument without understanding the personal nature of this tragedy.  To you, and many like you, this is just academic and fodder for argument.  That's why your kind always seems surprised at the unintended consequences when your philosophy is implemented.

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Which is of course why I stated "could have been taken down" and "could have been stopped".  I assume this could be the case, especially since a well-trained person certainly could have pulled their gun quickly as they are trained to do, and  as I assume the skills of the school guard would far exceed those of the 20 year old misfit.  And I also do assume that a trained person would indeed hit what they're aiming at from within 25 feet,  an assumption based on my own time on a gun range with police officers, sheriffs deputies, and others.  There is of course also a chance that he might not have been quick enough or not shoot accurately enough, but I sure do like the odds of my scenario better than yours.  In yours, there is no chance.  There is no defense.  There is no possibility of stopping this madman. 

 

Not unprovable leaps.  Reasonable expectations  based on fact and experience. 

 

You continue to amaze.

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