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So folks, what she's saying is that there was no good way to measure activity such as this back then, which makes this whole global warming thing more of a farce than even Algore made it.  And, labeling someone a fraud is still her standard response. 

 

 


So, do we all agree there was no way to measure solar activity in the year 1000?

Of course, since CO2 in the atmosphere is the real cause, it makes no difference what the solar activity might have been or might not have been then.

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According to MIT, "...accurate space weather records as measured by the number of sunspots date back to the time of Galileo and can be extrapolated further back using other dating methods."

 

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/510541/space-weather-influenced-food-prices-in-medieval-england-say-astrophysicists/

 

"The Physics arXiv Blog

January 31, 2013

Extreme Space Weather Triggered Medieval Famines, Say Astrophysicists

      Famines plagued Iceland and food prices spiked in medieval England following extreme space weather events, according to a new study of historical data 

 

The Earth’s local interplanetary environment is a maelstrom of solar winds, giant clouds of hot plasma ejected from the Sun and violent magnetic fields. To a large extent, we are protected from this so-called space weather by our atmosphere and the Earth’s magnetic field.

But every once in a while, these interplanetary storms are so ferocious that even our planetary defences fail. In 1989, for example, a powerful geomagnetic storm knocked out the Hydro-Quebec power grid leaving six million people without electricity.

Today, Lev Pustil’nikand Gregory Yom Din at Tel Aviv University in Israel say the effects of space weather could be much more significant than originally thought. These guys make the case that under certain special conditions, space weather can influence terrestrial weather so severely that it can have a dramatic effects on agriculture, causing crop failures, death and starvation.

The evidence linking space weather and terrestrial weather is growing. The idea here is that cosmic rays can ionise dust particles, which then attract water vapour triggering the formation of clouds.

This happens only in regions where the atmosphere is in a critical state with high enough levels of humidity. For example, there is growing evidence that this seems to have happened many times in the cold moist air over the North Atlantic.

This alone cannot influence agricultural output under ordinary conditions, however. Pustil’nik and Yom Din point out that certain crops are hugely vulnerable to dramatic changes in weather at specific times of the year. For example, a cold snap lasting a few days can destroy certain crops without influencing the annual or even monthly mean temperature. If a region is overly dependent on these kinds of crops, then it is vulnerable to the cascading effects of space weather.

But even this need not lead to catastrophe if the local population can easily access food from elsewhere. So one final factor also comes into play which is a region’s isolation.

So their theory is that a region’s agriculture is vulnerable to variations in space weather if it meets three conditions: the local weather must be sensitive to space weather; the local agriculture must be critically vulnerable to sudden changes in weather; and finally, the region must be isolated.

Pustil’nik and Yom Din say that several regions meet these criteria and predict that there ought to be a correlation between space weather and the price of food in these places.

One place they pick out is medieval England, which is vulnerable because it is in the north Atlantic, dependent on wheat which is vulnerable to weather changes and also isolated from mainland Europe.

So an interesting question is whether food prices in medieval England correlate with space weather records.

That sounds a tall order to investigate given the nature of the data. But as it turns out, detailed records of English food prices survive dating back to 1259.

What’s more, accurate space weather records as measured by the number of sunspots date back to the time of Galileo and can be extrapolated further back using other dating methods.

 

So folks, what she's saying is that there was no good way to measure activity such as this back then, which makes this whole global warming thing more of a farce than even Algore made it.  And, labeling someone a fraud is still her standard response. 

 

 


So, do we all agree there was no way to measure solar activity in the year 1000?

Of course, since CO2 in the atmosphere is the real cause, it makes no difference what the solar activity might have been or might not have been then.


And as we all know, there were many well-recorded, scientific, and accurate ways to record CO2 levels a thousand years ago.  Some of it involved Iowa Nitrogen.

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