Have to ask again....

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Oh for heaven's sake. This is SO old and so ridiculous. Don't you think that this would have been thoroughly investigated years ago? Why do people insist on bringing it up over and over and over? I didn't vote for the man, but he is our president and he has a certificate of live birth.

 

For those who insist that's not the same as a birth certificate, I was born in CA 70 years ago and MY certificate says "certificate of live birth!" I can assure you I was born in CA and am not from a foreign country! It's WAY past time for this whole thing to go away.

Wow..another new and surprising poster...

 

A 70 year old poster happens on to our less-than-worldly little message board, and of all the bigger news/serious issues posted here, is impacted the most by this post-thread, and decides to join this message board to enter the fray on something they perceive as apparently trivial and ridiculous? Your sense of values seem a little questionable, JS.

 

Gosh, Jill S, or JOS, or whatever usernameyou may have used here before....I'm kinda left wondering why, if you did not vote for the man, why you come to his defense?  And, if you did not vote for him....then you are surely ready to rid our country of him and his admin after their less than dismal record? I'm sure you'll agree with me on that, since you didn't vote for him after-all.

 

Likewise, I am left wondering if you have posted anywhere else on this matter, since it is the single most and apparently highest-priority post on this entire board to you? Sure seems it must be a serious matter for defense, even though you call all this ridiculous! If it is so ridiculous, why break your silence and enter discussion of the ridiculous issue?

 

Have you also put as much effort into why the man refuses to have his birth records un-sealed in Hawaii over and over and over?

 

As for this statement; "I can assure you I was born in CA and am not from a foreign country!". Are you willing to prove this statement? That's all others have done with nobama. Are you prepared to qualify your statements?

 

On a secondary note....I always am suspect of new board posters (on any board) who enter and say things like, " I didn't vote for the man"....and then proceed to defend him. Let me ask....what your reason(s) were for not voting for him and would you care to state just who you did vote for? These things always are bewildering.

 

BTW... your typing skills and apparent internet prowess far surpass most liberals here. They should be taking lessons from your 70 years of experience. Laughing

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How ya doin' Jill?   Regardless, I'll just make a guess that whether or not the Obumbler is actually a citizen of the U.S. would not matter to you anyway?  Am I right?

 

You probably won't want to read the following either, but here it is anyway.  The constitution demands “natural born” so as to mitigate the possibility of “divided loyalties”. 

Anyone can swear and sign the form to the registrar in Hawaii that they were a citizen of Hawaii and within the previous year gave birth. The individual gives the date/time of the birth and a document record is dually entered. Perhaps someone can clue us in as to whether you even need to show the baby! It doesn’t look like it from my read of the statute.

 

 http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm

 

One can get a “Certification of Live Birth” with minimal documentation and no eyewitnesses.  The date of birth can be any date the person enters! This document can then be used to establish citizenship for the purpose of obtaining a passport, but its lack of physically identifying information found on the "Certification Of Live Birth" precludes it from being useful in proving "Natural Born" status.

 

At the time the Obumbler was born, I imagine his mother and grandparents would have taken steps to make sure he was registered as a U.S. citizen rather than a Kenyan in any way they could, including posting a notice in the local paper and filing for some kind of certificate.   I'm not blaming them.  I do blame the Obumbler, the Democrat party, and the mainstream media for perpetrating a fraud on the U.S. if it proves true.

 

Now, what's your answer to my original question?  Will they have to cuff him?

Oh; Oh....sorry, JS. I may have to take back some of my compliments of your writings.

 

Your words in your second post just don't seem to fit the lingo of most 70 year-olds I know. You seem a little more "current" with your insults than most 70 year olds.

 

I wonder why you call other's posts on this matter "stupid junk"? Was it your intent to come here and be insulting? I really don't think you get to decided what is or is not stupid for others.

 

However...I would offer that the one person that could stop all this ridiculous stupidity has refused to stop it, over and over and over (to borrow your words)!

 

Still....I am bewildered why this issue "brought you out"?

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I've posted here before under the same name. But I had to re-register because it's been quite a while and I couldn't remember my password. If you have nothing better to do, go back through the last couple of years posts and you'll find some from me under either Jill or Jill S or JillS.  I don't know which I used OR which password I might have used.

 

And I did not and would not vote for Obama, but who I DID vote for is my business. I am not defending him..I am commenting on the fact that this "theory" has been around for years and now it's being resurrected again.  I get very tired of the same old conspiracy theories that some people love to spout. Do any of you seriously think that this hasn't been thoroughly investigated by the best legal minds?

 

As for my not sounding like "most" 70 year olds? Well, golly gee...not all of us are in rocking chairs watching Andy Griffith reruns. Since I have no idea what  you expect a 70-year old to "sound" like, I guess there's no way to prove it except to scan ny "certificate of live birth" and post it for you. But if I do that, then I'm sure somebody will point out that it could be forged, so that won't work.

 

At any rate, I've been here before and usually stay out of any politcal "conversations."

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