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make money. Mr. Hackworth asked if there were public records at the County about what was happening down there. Ms Gilleland clarified Mr. Hackworth was referring to the existing CEDA area, and stated she did not know what records the County had. Mr. Hackworth stated further some of the infrastructure was not in our school district and he did not know how to protect us in that. He stated Townships can?’t take on debt and he was not sure if we would get generous developers who would build roads for us. Mr. Hartmann stated the agreement is written in very general terms because all it is, is an agreement to establish other agreements. He stated he felt the worst thing you can do is put in to many limitations because these are issues that will be absolutely spelled out in any JEDD or annexation agreement that follows. He stated right now it is virtually impossible to anticipate what is going to go in. Mr. Wisniewski stated he would like to see the flat out 50 percent off the top removed from this. Mr. Hartmann stated that is certainly an issue to debate. Mr. Hackworth stated one of his proposed amendments addressed this issue. Mr. Fix stated he would request, at this hour, not to debate amendments to this agreement. Mr. Sabatino inquired what the purpose of this discussion was if we were not going to discuss the agreement and how to get where we want to go. Mr. Fix stated he understood when we entered this conversation we would go through the document and clarify things while the law director was here and have questions brought forth, it was not the time to debate the merits of any individual point or any individual amendment proposed. Mr. Sabatino stated he thought the purpose was to discuss the agreement. Mrs. Riggs stated she felt the purpose tonight was to figure out where we are fundamentally with the agreement, not make amendments. She stated she felt some of the key things in the agreement were the duration and giving up the right to annex. She stated if a JEDD is brought to us out of this agreement, and we don?’t like it, we don?’t have to participate in it. Mr. Hartmann stated there is a clause that allows us not to participate in a JEDD if we don?’t want to. Mr. Sabatino stated that is all the more reason we should not enter into a blanket agreement. Mrs. Hammond questioned if this agreement could be worded along the lines that any division of monies would be agreed upon with each individual agreement. Mr. Hartmann stated that is something that can be changed instead of locking in on a percentage. Mr. Sabatino stated we would have no bargaining power at that point, we would be committed for 30 years in this agreement. Mr. Wisniewski stated if we have questions for Mr. Hartmann that is what we should get into, not specific changes. He stated he is hearing a lot of problems with the agreement from a lot of different people on Council, and these changes could be made at a later date. Mr. Hackworth questioned if this agreement has been agreed to by the Township, and Mr. Hartmann stated the Township has not seen this agreement. Mr. Wisniewski stated if we are annexing the land, and we are annexing the roads, and we?’re maintaining the roads, then why are we paying them a fee for something that they are not supporting? Mr. Hartmann stated he did not make any of the policy decisions on this, but there is currently an ordinance in place. Mr. Fix stated that is correct, it is an agreement from 2000 or 2001 that basically said that and they wanted it included here if we gave away taxes. Mr. Hartman stated that ordinance was very general, and Mr. Wisniewski clarified this was an ordinance passed by Council that basically says that the road and bridge levy equivalent will be reimbursed to the Township if they do not oppose us on the annexation. Mr. Hartmann stated Council certainly can revisit this issue. Mr. Wisniewski stated he would
make money. Mr. Hackworth asked if there were public records at the County about what was happening down there. Ms Gilleland clarified Mr. Hackworth was referring to the existing CEDA area, and stated she did not know what records the County had. Mr. Hackworth stated further some of the infrastructure was not in our school district and he did not know how to protect us in that. He stated Townships can?’t take on debt and he was not sure if we would get generous developers who would build roads for us. Mr. Hartmann stated the agreement is written in very general terms because all it is, is an agreement to establish other agreements. He stated he felt the worst thing you can do is put in to many limitations because these are issues that will be absolutely spelled out in any JEDD or annexation agreement that follows. He stated right now it is virtually impossible to anticipate what is going to go in. Mr. Wisniewski stated he would like to see the flat out 50 percent off the top removed from this. Mr. Hartmann stated that is certainly an issue to debate. Mr. Hackworth stated one of his proposed amendments addressed this issue. Mr. Fix stated he would request, at this hour, not to debate amendments to this agreement. Mr. Sabatino inquired what the purpose of this discussion was if we were not going to discuss the agreement and how to get where we want to go. Mr. Fix stated he understood when we entered this conversation we would go through the document and clarify things while the law director was here and have questions brought forth, it was not the time to debate the merits of any individual point or any individual amendment proposed. Mr. Sabatino stated he thought the purpose was to discuss the agreement. Mrs. Riggs stated she felt the purpose tonight was to figure out where we are fundamentally with the agreement, not make amendments. She stated she felt some of the key things in the agreement were the duration and giving up the right to annex. She stated if a JEDD is brought to us out of this agreement, and we don?’t like it, we don?’t have to participate in it. Mr. Hartmann stated there is a clause that allows us not to participate in a JEDD if we don?’t want to. Mr. Sabatino stated that is all the more reason we should not enter into a blanket agreement. Mrs. Hammond questioned if this agreement could be worded along the lines that any division of monies would be agreed upon with each individual agreement. Mr. Hartmann stated that is something that can be changed instead of locking in on a percentage. Mr. Sabatino stated we would have no bargaining power at that point, we would be committed for 30 years in this agreement. Mr. Wisniewski stated if we have questions for Mr. Hartmann that is what we should get into, not specific changes. He stated he is hearing a lot of problems with the agreement from a lot of different people on Council, and these changes could be made at a later date. Mr. Hackworth questioned if this agreement has been agreed to by the Township, and Mr. Hartmann stated the Township has not seen this agreement. Mr. Wisniewski stated if we are annexing the land, and we are annexing the roads, and we?’re maintaining the roads, then why are we paying them a fee for something that they are not supporting? Mr. Hartmann stated he did not make any of the policy decisions on this, but there is currently an ordinance in place. Mr. Fix stated that is correct, it is an agreement from 2000 or 2001 that basically said that and they wanted it included here if we gave away taxes. Mr. Hartman stated that ordinance was very general, and Mr. Wisniewski clarified this was an ordinance passed by Council that basically says that the road and bridge levy equivalent will be reimbursed to the Township if they do not oppose us on the annexation. Mr. Hartmann stated Council certainly can revisit this issue. Mr. Wisniewski stated he would