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I think the city is headed in a direction that will surly make it a much less desirable place to live in the near future. I think council has isolated itself by remaining silent on the needs of the city and in some cases actual pie in the sky projects.
Last January or February I read in the minutes that involving the public in developing a tax proposal would take too long. They (the public) simply couldn?’t get up to speed fast enough. It appears that the expense subcommittee that was formed soon after these comments is still active. When someone does go onto the city WEB site and pull out the budget and recite numbers from that budget it causes brain freezes and it is described as ?“mind-numbing?”. In reality the person posting those comments is probably a sitting council member. How comforting.
What has been so frustrating with the current bunch on council is that they are making the decisions and THEY are jamming them down our throats. We apparently in the voting public are not smart enough to figure out the complex issues like debt and taxes.
It has been a while since I have attended any meetings at city hall but many times you sit in the gallery and you only have an agenda. The different members of the council or a commission begin to debate and talk about the issue at hand. They have their blue prints, a copy of the ordinances or the agreement being discussed. Many times the people in the audience have no idea of what the members are talking about. It is not that we are stupid it is that we simply don?’t have the same information of what is being discussed or a lawyer to explain to us those areas that are foreign to most people.
The fact is that most on council have no better of an understanding of any of these issues than those in the audience. However the council has had some time to study the issue and ask questions of those that do have the expertise. Yet this same council expects the public to overwhelmingly pass a tax issue with many parts to it without any advice from experts or actually seeing any of the details.
I have also seen postings here that say no one has bothered to show up at the council meetings to speak their mind about income taxes and other issues. I have seen people speak at council and I have seen them made fun of and in some cases harassed by over aggressive members. Even is you organize a large group they still ignore you and your group's comments. They go ahead and do what they were going to do in the first place.
I remember a few years ago before Diley Road started that ODOT had a meeting at the church and they had all of the plans laid out for the Diley Road widening. I still didn?’t agree with them but I was able to vent a little on just how dumb their idea was. Obviously I had no power to stop the project and the reality finally set in. So far the project looks good and I think it will add to the community. Still concerned with the chuck holes forming already.
I think the city is headed in a direction that will surly make it a much less desirable place to live in the near future. I think council has isolated itself by remaining silent on the needs of the city and in some cases actual pie in the sky projects.
Last January or February I read in the minutes that involving the public in developing a tax proposal would take too long. They (the public) simply couldn?’t get up to speed fast enough. It appears that the expense subcommittee that was formed soon after these comments is still active. When someone does go onto the city WEB site and pull out the budget and recite numbers from that budget it causes brain freezes and it is described as ?“mind-numbing?”. In reality the person posting those comments is probably a sitting council member. How comforting.
What has been so frustrating with the current bunch on council is that they are making the decisions and THEY are jamming them down our throats. We apparently in the voting public are not smart enough to figure out the complex issues like debt and taxes.
It has been a while since I have attended any meetings at city hall but many times you sit in the gallery and you only have an agenda. The different members of the council or a commission begin to debate and talk about the issue at hand. They have their blue prints, a copy of the ordinances or the agreement being discussed. Many times the people in the audience have no idea of what the members are talking about. It is not that we are stupid it is that we simply don?’t have the same information of what is being discussed or a lawyer to explain to us those areas that are foreign to most people.
The fact is that most on council have no better of an understanding of any of these issues than those in the audience. However the council has had some time to study the issue and ask questions of those that do have the expertise. Yet this same council expects the public to overwhelmingly pass a tax issue with many parts to it without any advice from experts or actually seeing any of the details.
I have also seen postings here that say no one has bothered to show up at the council meetings to speak their mind about income taxes and other issues. I have seen people speak at council and I have seen them made fun of and in some cases harassed by over aggressive members. Even is you organize a large group they still ignore you and your group's comments. They go ahead and do what they were going to do in the first place.
I remember a few years ago before Diley Road started that ODOT had a meeting at the church and they had all of the plans laid out for the Diley Road widening. I still didn?’t agree with them but I was able to vent a little on just how dumb their idea was. Obviously I had no power to stop the project and the reality finally set in. So far the project looks good and I think it will add to the community. Still concerned with the chuck holes forming already.