No contradiction, and I never asked them to help.... I simply said enforce the regulations and city codes already in place. I believe it's very clear what's expected of each and everyone of us in our "deed" even down to what type of storage shed we can have, to what type of composite roofing material we can use. I also feel it is wrong to expect a handful of people to do what each and everyone of us should be doing anyway. I think it's lazy and irresponsible as a homeowner not to research yourself whats going on in your community, after-all, we obviously all have the resources, otherwise you would not have been able to access this web-page!(which by the way is a forum that can easily be created without and HOA) and as far as mowing goes...you would think the people up front would appreciate his services enough and have enough pride as property owners to reward his efforts by replacing their fences, and you are very correct, the City is who I should be complaining to, not the HOA, because they really don't have any authority(thanks for pointing that out) and I am sure they are tired of being the bad guy...thanks for the suggestion and the insight. I'm curious is your fence one that needs to be replaced? PS: The families on San Joaquin that took the time and effort to apply for a permit for the July 4th block party, well they have no titles or dues but they did what was "Neighborly and right" I was not able to attend, but Thank you!