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Let 'em build a mosque. Show our tolerance.

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If you can point out a sizeable group of christians, that within the last several hundred years, killed people of an opposing culture or religion, because of and, in the name of their own religion, I will side with you.  

 

Would the Catholic Irish and the Anglican English killing each other over the past 4 or 5 hundred years count?  They've only tapered off in the past few decades.   Cromwell killed entire towns.

Would the Protestants and Catholics of Germany killing the Jews throughout Europe count?

Would the Mormons killing a small band of settlers passing through Utah count?

Would the Spanish Inquisition count?

Would Catholic Cortez doing away with the natives of Mexico who would not convert count?

I realize the last two might be outside your time frame.

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No, these groups are not "sizeable" when compared to the muslim population.  Cromwell died in 1658.  The Irish/English conflict was not about religion, but about sovereignty.

The killing of the jews was promulgated by a comparative limited number of people.   It wasn't based on "scripture".

Mormons? Spanish Inquisition?  Cortez?  You'll have to do better than that. 

My point is that the muslim religion still expounds violence based on their scripture.  No western culture religion does that anymore.

We've grown up.  They haven't.

They are still childish, throwing a fit and acting out, but this child is a killer..

This is all so pedantic. There is no question the Mid East is backward and no one is arguing that. This is why so many want out and to cone here. Also the Bible had just as many aggressive parts as the Koran. Remember, historically when Islam conquered an area the people could keep their religion and paid a tax to Caliphs. The Christians just killed all who would not convert. However this is long ago. What about today? Let's see....child rape upheld and protected by Catholic Church. Child Brides in Mormon offshoots. I do believe we should be on lookout for radicals of all religions. There are plenty out there but the average cabby in New York has nothing to do with any of this. All I'm saying is it's best not to generalize. Their are many Muslims that have stood up to oppressive regimes in Middle East. I just feel we should not judge people by religion as religion is something people are born into mostly. I am not defending any religion. In fact in many ways I feel religion is the problem and spirituality is the solution. We gotta get past this or our kids will suffer. All I ask is people are judged as individuals and not typecasted due to religion.
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No, these groups are not "sizeable" when compared to the muslim population. 

This is one of your problems.   You lump all Muslims into one group.   They're not homogeneous.  It's tough to find another "sizeable" religious group that large so you've made our task impossible. 

Cromwell died in 1658.  The Irish/English conflict was not about religion, but about sovereignty.

Cromwell died but the killing went on until a few decades ago.    And still is sporadically.

Tell a Catholic Irishman it wasn't about religion and he will quickly set you straight.   It continued long after Ireland gained its independence.

The killing of the jews was promulgated by a comparative limited number of people. 

Compared to 2 billion muslims, of course, but still "sizeable".

It wasn't based on "scripture".

Didn't "scripture" define the two groups?

Mormons? Spanish Inquisition?  Cortez?  You'll have to do better than that. 

You can ignore these if you wish but deaths because of religion happened.

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