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Central Dad: some info found
Central Dad:
I found some of the information you're requesting (administrative spending per pupil) on the PLSD website. Check out the Treasurer tab under leadership. Pickerington is compared to other school districts.
Also, I'd assume the the cost per square foot for a brick and mortar school classroom includes the cost for hallways, offices, gymnasium, cafeteria, bathrooms, etc. For portables, you just have the cost to procure, plus the cost to install (ramps, electricity, etc.).
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Uhmmmm, Huh?
Anonymous,
Thanks for taking the time to look up the information you provided. Given the extremely tedious nature of the school website makes me appreciate it all the more. I don?’t remember asking for any spending per pupil. I was looking more at the accusation that the district is top heavy in admin folks. I was curious for perhaps the ration of non-educators like deans, assistants deans, assistant this and assistant that to student. Also maybe it might be interesting to see the ratio of educators to non-educators. Numbers like that. Maybe I am not asking clearly if I don?’t ask for all comparisons to be based against a student. Maybe that?’s how the schools calculate everything and I just don?’t realize it.
If you are an educator or a district non-educator or maybe even a board member, let me know if I should make my wild requests for information to be based on a per student calculation if that is how it?’s done.
Let me clarify something else. I realize salaries are paid from operating money and the issue before us is a construction levy. I realize we are talking about two different things. The reason I even went down this path is because if you build it, you have to open and operate it. It all takes more money. If our staff numbers are in balance with similar districts elsewhere in the state, and I don?’t mean just around I-270, it will impact my decision to vote for building.
By Central Dad
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response to Central Dad
No, not an educator, BOE member, etc. Just a another Central Parent that is frustrated with our overcrowded schools and sees the dramatic need for this bond issue to pass.
The info on the district website (Leadership, Treasurer) is not overall spending per student. It's only the administrative costs per pupil. Spending per pupil is more like $8000/pupil. The $800-900 per student is just what the district spends in adminstration costs. I'd assume this to be just administrators. According to the footnote at the bottom of the chart, the info comes from the Ohio Dept. of Education website. I'm sure there's lots more data there. And, I'm pretty sure everything is on a per student basis. How else can districts be compared? You note that if new buildings are opened, operating costs go up. Beyond teachers, that are already teaching these ''overflow'' kids in other buildings/portables and therefore, already accounted for, there is an additional cost for guidance, principals, cafeteria workers, maintenance, etc. It's interesting to note on this chart also that the costs increased when North/Lakeview opened, and then decreased. This district is going to continue to grow, and therefore, the overall adm. cost/student will decrease after the 2 proposed buildings come on line (2 years), until another new (future) building is opened. At least, that's how I see it. Portables are not a long term answer for this district. They just buy a little time. Eventually (and we're there at least at Violet, Pickerington, and Heritage), the common space (cafeterias, gyms, bathrooms, nurse's clinics, art & music rooms, etc.) doesn't support the surplus of students. We need a permanent, long term solution (more schools) because this district is far from being ''built-out.''
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One More Thing
One more thing to consider in your building comparisons--the life expectancy of each type. State guidelines dictate a 28 year life for permanent buildings. The service life of a portable is 15 or 16 years. You need to add moving and set up costs also. And finally, if I remember from a couple of meetings ago, due to the Katrina costs, portable are up around $80 - 85,000 to buy. Transportation and set up is extra. Something to think about.
By Any Mouse
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