all too often, when you mention turtle cove, all you hear is $300 for what.. they take your money and you get .... you guessed it.. nothing. The same old people that show up at the bar and sing church songs at karoke, are the exact reason they cant get people to come. The old people have a right to sing whatever, but they need to understand that they got to listen to the younger croud do their thing too.. we have to deal with each other. so if the old people want the bar and restaruant to cater to just them. then so be it. they will be drinking alone.