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If you're talking about MPW, they're not violating EPA or DNR limits.

And also it's the city that is spreading coal ash on the streets, not MPW.

 

Just had to call out the liar once again. you know, the one that bragged about having an higher IQ than anyone else here....

 

 

From the published May 21, 2013 Ia DNR Fine Particulate Matter Plan:

"The Iowa Department of Natural Resources (DNR) determined that three major sources of air pollution 
in the Muscatine area significantly contribute to predicted (modeled) PM2.5 exceedances of the
standard in the vicinity of the Garfield School monitor. These facilities are Grain Processing Corporation
(GPC), Muscatine Power & Water (MPW), and Union Tank Car Company (UTLX)".
 
Sheesh, mallcontent...so much information at your fingertips and you continually set yourself up to fail.
Really? Not violating any limits?
 
http://www.iowadnr.gov/Portals/idnr/uploads/air/insidednr/stakeholder/muscatine%20sipcallpm25_publiccomment.pdf
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June 27, 2013, MJ Online:
 
"According to Jim McGraw, program development supervisor for the  
Iowa DNR’s air quality bureau, the three businesses identified as 
the major sources of PM2.5 exceedences are Grain Processing Corp., 
Muscatine Power and Water and Union Tank Car Company".

Not violating any limits, huh?

http://muscatinejournal.com/news/local/iowa-dnr-wants-to-clear-the-air-in-muscatine/article_401ed4ee-592d-530a-8e1d-c73fd2ff0c0e.html
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If you're talking about MPW, they're not violating EPA or DNR limits.

And also it's the city that is spreading coal ash on the streets, not MPW.

 

Just had to call out the liar once again. you know, the one that bragged about having an higher IQ than anyone else here....

 

 

From the published May 21, 2013 Ia DNR Fine Particulate Matter Plan:

"The Iowa Department of Natural Resources (DNR) determined that three major sources of air pollution 
in the Muscatine area significantly contribute to predicted (modeled) PM2.5 exceedances of the
standard in the vicinity of the Garfield School monitor. These facilities are Grain Processing Corporation
(GPC), Muscatine Power & Water (MPW), and Union Tank Car Company (UTLX)".
 
Sheesh, mallcontent...so much information at your fingertips and you continually set yourself up to fail.
Really? Not violating any limits?
 
http://www.iowadnr.gov/Portals/idnr/uploads/air/insidednr/stakeholder/muscatine%20sipcallpm25_publiccomment.pdf
------------------------------------------------------
 
 
June 27, 2013, MJ Online:
 
"According to Jim McGraw, program development supervisor for the  
Iowa DNR’s air quality bureau, the three businesses identified as 
the major sources of PM2.5 exceedences are Grain Processing Corp., 
Muscatine Power and Water and Union Tank Car Company".

Not violating any limits, huh?

http://muscatinejournal.com/news/local/iowa-dnr-wants-to-clear-the-air-in-muscatine/article_401ed4ee-592d-530a-8e1d-c73fd2ff0c0e.html

 

 

If you're talking about MPW, they're not violating EPA or DNR limits.

And also it's the city that is spreading coal ash on the streets, not MPW.

 

Just had to call out the liar once again. you know, the one that bragged about having an higher IQ than anyone else here....

 

 

From the published May 21, 2013 Ia DNR Fine Particulate Matter Plan:

"The Iowa Department of Natural Resources (DNR) determined that three major sources of air pollution 
in the Muscatine area significantly contribute to predicted (modeled) PM2.5 exceedances of the
standard in the vicinity of the Garfield School monitor. These facilities are Grain Processing Corporation
(GPC), Muscatine Power & Water (MPW), and Union Tank Car Company (UTLX)".
 
Sheesh, mallcontent...so much information at your fingertips and you continually set yourself up to fail.
Really? Not violating any limits?
 
http://www.iowadnr.gov/Portals/idnr/uploads/air/insidednr/stakeholder/muscatine%20sipcallpm25_publiccomment.pdf
------------------------------------------------------
 
 
June 27, 2013, MJ Online:
 
"According to Jim McGraw, program development supervisor for the  
Iowa DNR’s air quality bureau, the three businesses identified as 
the major sources of PM2.5 exceedences are Grain Processing Corp., 
Muscatine Power and Water and Union Tank Car Company".

Not violating any limits, huh?

http://muscatinejournal.com/news/local/iowa-dnr-wants-to-clear-the-air-in-muscatine/article_401ed4ee-592d-530a-8e1d-c73fd2ff0c0e.html
 

It says that a standard was exceeded but not by any one named source.    Only that the three named sources were major sources.   There were obviously others.    If you want to blame one it's GPC.   GPC by far exceeds the output from MPW.    MPW has precipitators and scrubbers on its largest units.

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Apparently you missed the whole issue. MPW is the city. MPW furnishes coal ash for the city to spread. The entity is one in the same; the departments differ but are the same entity.

 

You missed the issue.    MPW is a socialist enterprise.   It delivers its product cheaper than most private enterprises.   It pollutes, same as private enterprises, but likely not as much but that's separate issue.

 

So, we have you on record, that the meters monitoring south end particulate matter, do not measure MPW's contribution to the exceedences that are on record?

 

They monitor the total from all sources.   The individual source can't be determined after it's mixed in the air   You should know that after your exhaustive research on trying to separate nitrogen by source in the Gulf

 

And you were the one swearing up and down that Iowa's nitrogen was in the Gulf of Mexico, even though it could not be isolated as such? Quite a quandry you have going on.

 

I still enjoy your stumbling around the nitrogen issue.   And acting superior.   I marvel that you can't grasp the simple concept that if you are going to place a uniform material into a container from multiple sources and want to know how much came from each source, you measure it before putting it in the container, not try to isolate it after it's mixed.   How dumb can you be?

 

BTW; your low rate socialist utility dumps all kinds of pollution in the Miss Rvr that reaches the Gulf. Are the low rates you pay worth what you argued about for several years off and on here?

 

Can you enumerate and quantify some?

 

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I'm sure malodery would rather talk about terminology (than the merits of socialism vs. capitalism), but I'll remind us of the important point of this thread:

 

"Cooperatives at the local level are fine for some purposes.  It's that Federal Socialism that is a whore's nightmare.  If I want to exercise my individual right to sell electricity or gas or water, I can move to a state or locality that will allow it.  If the feds take it over, I can't do that without leaving the country.  It's a no brainer."  previous post in this thread by hiroad

 

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress. Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America."

-- James Madison, Letter to Edmund Pendleton, 1792


 The closest I can find to an original is from "freerepublic.com", but someone called Carry_Okie asks  for a source archive.   Then it's oops, it was not in a letter to Pendalton but from a speech he gave a little later, Feb. 7, 1792, about a Cod Fishery Bill.    The words you underlined aren't there.

Still no archive source.

 I think you're giving Madison a bad rap.

 

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