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The Socialism advantage

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I'm sure malodery would rather talk about terminology (than the merits of socialism vs. capitalism), but I'll remind us of the important point of this thread:

 

I'm talking about the merits.   You brought in some new terminology that doesn't apply.   Do you accept the advantages of our socialist power supplier?

 

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress. Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for   (by Whom?),  it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America."

-- James Madison, Letter to Edmund Pendleton, 1792


 What's Madison's real problem here?

 

 

You mean the suppler in violation of the EPA and DNR particulate matter limits of pollution? At what point do you accept it, mallcontent. Cheap rates plus lung disease and water pollution for it's customers?

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I'm sure malodery would rather talk about terminology (than the merits of socialism vs. capitalism), but I'll remind us of the important point of this thread:

 

I'm talking about the merits.   You brought in some new terminology that doesn't apply.   Do you accept the advantages of our socialist power supplier?

 

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasury; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor; they may undertake the regulation of all roads other than post-roads; in short, every thing, from the highest object of state legislation down to the most minute object of police, would be thrown under the power of Congress. Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for   (by Whom?),  it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America."

-- James Madison, Letter to Edmund Pendleton, 1792


 What's Madison's real problem here?

 

 

You mean the suppler in violation of the EPA and DNR particulate matter limits of pollution? At what point do you accept it, mallcontent. Cheap rates plus lung disease and water pollution for it's customers?


More supple than whom or what?

 

If you're talking about MPW, they're not violating EPA or DNR limits.

And also it's the city that is spreading coal ash on the streets, not MPW.

Again, I'm talking about the economics of our socialist enterprise and how it delivers power cheaper than almost any other source in the state.

Nobody has said it's a bad system or said it sould be changed yet.

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"What's Madison's real problem here?"

 

People who think like you, and other tyrants.

Apparently you missed the whole issue. MPW is the city. MPW furnishes coal ash for the city to spread. The entity is one in the same; the departments differ but are the same entity.

 

So, we have you on record, that the meters monitoring south end particulate matter, do not measure MPW's contribution to the exceedences that are on record? And you were the one swearing up and down that Iowa's nitrogen was in the Gulf of Mexico, even though it could not be isolated as such? Quite a quandry you have going on.

 

BTW; your low rate socialist utility dumps all kinds of pollution in the Miss Rvr that reaches the Gulf. Are the low rates you pay worth what you argued about for several years off and on here?

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