Bella Vista

Lower The H.O.A. Fees, damnit!

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  • pstreicher
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  • Tampa, FL
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I've opened up this discussion in hopes that we can come up with ways to lower our fees. Has anyone got any ideas? Do you even care?

This isn't big government, folks. This is our little piece of country that we can control, if we want to.

I'm afraid that if we don't open our eyes and see what's going on around us it's going to eat our lunch so to speak.

At this time only a handful of people even know about this website so I don't expect any input.

It's not about coming to meetings. Newsletters are non-existent or if any at all, are full of nothingness. There really needs to be someone who can step up to the plate and tell us exactly what's going on. But, that is expecting too much as fear is a great roadblock to the truth it seems. It just might upset the applecart if the truth were known. I'd be willing to bet by this time next year our fees will rise again. What do  you think?

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  • werjd3
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Paul,

Having sat on this BOD since I moved here nearly 5 years ago, I must say that I do take some offense to this.

I agree that the newsletters have become sparse, but YOU signed up to be on that committee if I remember correctly.  So, PLEASE take that cart and put one together that is full of far less than nothingness.

As for the HOA dues, I have lived in communities with FAR greater dues that have risen at a MUCH higher rate.  I am certain that this is the first and ONLY time that our dues have gone up at all and with all of the projects that have been completed in the last two years(painting of the wall, mailboxes, to name a couple), and the premium for our insurances rising considerably, how could our association fees NOT go up? 

Although I missed the last meeting that was held(only my second missed in five years), so I can not speak for what was said and voted upon, I think that those of us who have served on the Board and VOLUNTEERED our time to make this a good community to live in should be thanked, NOT dragged across the proverbial coals.

Jackie Durning

Bella Vista Secretary

Paul, I'm very disappointed in your post above, and several of the others you've posted on this website. What's gotten into you? You've known all the board members for quite a while. As someone who has promoted "telling someone to their face" in your posts, I'd think that you'd take the opportunity to express your reservations in person. But I suppose it's easier to post here than look someone in the eye.

Had you taken the opportunity to do that, here are some things you would have learned:

1. The community's insurance increased substantially in the last year. Additionally, revenues were down due to non-payment from some of our members. While we're pursuing all options as to those folks, I hope you'd agree that foreclosure should be a last resort. So under those circumstances, there was no choice but to raise the fees. We didn't do that lightly. Our management company presented us with data from comparable communities and I can assure you that our increase was well under what most communities charged. Our fees remain far less than most, which is something I'm proud of.

2. There was a thorough discussion of the basketball hoop issue in the last year. The input from our attorney was that the restrictions you want are essentially unenforceable.

3. Rob, Sunni and I met with a contractor to discuss the berm and lake issues. We're awaiting a report from that contractor. We discussed several optons to make our lake compliant with SWFWMD regulations and to make sure that the berm area is secure. I personally discussed both the legal implications of our options, and the engineering employed, with the contractor as both fall within my field of expertise.

4. As to the newsletters, as Jackie pointed out you volunteered to be on that committee. If you feel there isn't leadership there, it's on you. If you applied half the energy it took in blasting the board members into putting a newsletter together, there would be one you'd be satisfied with. Likewise, if you'd spent your time coming to meetings and speaking with board members instead of badmouthing them here, you would have had your answers already.

5. No one likes to get violation letters. I've gotten them too. Had you simply asked, you would know that our management company conducts periodic "drive bys" to determine violations. If a car is parked in the driveway and it's covering a stain, the inspector can't see the stain. One thing the board has implemented is a review process so that the letters aren't automatic. I personally take a look at the violations when I get a list to make sure they're legitimate and that there aren't any mistakes.

6. This website has been promoted. I don't know why few have posted. Perhaps you've read the pulse of the community incorrectly.

Paul, your posts have a very simplistic view of what you perceive to be problems in our neighborhood. HOAs are governed by very specific statutes. Although it would be satisfying, there isn't a "magic wand" we can wave to do what you want. You also need to be aware that we speak with many residents in our community, not just you. The things you're concerned about have not been raised, at least to me, by them. Please understand that it's my role to serve the entire community, not just those who post here. Your posts entitle you to neither more nor less weight than anyone else's opinion.

I haven't seen you at a meeting since the last annual meeting. I'd suggest to you that it's unfair to lash out at honest, hard-working people who are investing their precious time for free without doing some research. Some of your posts, in my opinion, imply that the board is either corrupt or incompetent. That's offensive and flatly incorrect. Over the years I have disagreed with the board often, but I respect their service and believe that people of good faith can disagree without one side being corrupt or stupid. I wish you'd adopt the same philosophy.

One last note: you vaguely reference "the truth" coming out, presumably by your hand. I urge you to more carefully research your claims and assertions before you make them. It's much easier to come up with gripes and start flame wars than to actually look into them and get your answers. I'd think it would serve your readers better to have a source of information they could rely on rather than useless speculation, conjecture, and bald accusations.  And yes, it is about attending meetings, if you don't take other steps to get informed.

Dave Gould

Vice President

 

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  • rich95
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I think the lack of activity is the real problem. The breach in the burm was small at the time the board was made aware of it and a cheap fix. Now it is huge because it wasn't resolved for over a year and a half. That will cost us money. Us being the residents. As far as the board being a non-paying job, everyone on the board knew that going in when they applied. If not shame on you. Paul and I have both attended many meetings and helped in the community alot. I didn't see you out helping trim trees. We don't expect thanks but what we do expect is rules to be enforced. Forget the basketball hoops. Drive through the community and look at driveways with rust spots, childrens play equipment left out since last summer, work trucks with and without signage or their work supplies in the back overnite, large deadspots in lawns,etc. And that is a board member and that is SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT at work. All helping bring down property values! One of the last conversations I had with one of the board members he made the comment everthing was going smooth and he doesn't worry about the little things. At that point, I knew my involement with the community was over with.The breach in the burm started out as a little thing 1 and a half years ago. Having a board member bad mouth me and make untrue allegations to my neighbors has been a bit much to digest. Hearing board members complain they get stuck with all the work because other board members do nothing is really bad. I could go on and on but I will save that for a later date. I credit Paul for speaking his mind and not hiding behind a screen name. You wonder why it can't be done at a meeting? Let's get real Dave-it would be dismissed or someone would talk over him loudly or the standard "I'll get back with you on that". Just remember-my good name and reputation are not without value!

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